Bazle Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 31 minutes ago, boydeste said: Would you like to enlighten us to these new symptoms that we are not aware of please? 19 minutes ago, forcebwithu said: I'll echo @boydeste's post. Everything I've read is the symptoms are the same, just less severe. https://covid.joinzoe.com/post/new-top-5-covid-symptoms#part_1 What are the symptoms of COVID-19 if you’re fully vaccinated? Generally, we saw similar symptoms of COVID-19 being reported overall in the app by people who had and hadn’t been vaccinated. However, fewer symptoms were reported over a shorter period of time by those who had already had a jab, suggesting that they were falling less seriously ill and getting better more quickly. Here is the current ranking of COVID symptoms after 2 vaccinations: Headache Runny nose Sneezing Sore throat Loss of smell The previous ‘traditional’ symptoms as still outlined on the government website, such as anosmia (loss of smell), shortness of breath and fever rank way down the list, at 5, 29 and 12 respectively. A persistent cough now ranks at number 8 if you’ve had two vaccine doses, so is no longer the top indicator of having COVID. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boydeste Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bazle said: https://covid.joinzoe.com/post/new-top-5-covid-symptoms#part_1 What are the symptoms of COVID-19 if you’re fully vaccinated? Generally, we saw similar symptoms of COVID-19 being reported overall in the app by people who had and hadn’t been vaccinated. However, fewer symptoms were reported over a shorter period of time by those who had already had a jab, suggesting that they were falling less seriously ill and getting better more quickly. Here is the current ranking of COVID symptoms after 2 vaccinations: Headache Runny nose Sneezing Sore throat Loss of smell The previous ‘traditional’ symptoms as still outlined on the government website, such as anosmia (loss of smell), shortness of breath and fever rank way down the list, at 5, 29 and 12 respectively. A persistent cough now ranks at number 8 if you’ve had two vaccine doses, so is no longer the top indicator of having COVID. So the symptoms are the same, just less severe? I do wonder sometimes, thankyou for proving the guy in the video is talking nonsense! And thankfully that suggests the vaccines are doing a great job. Pat on the back for the Government methinks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightcrawler Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 46 minutes ago, fforest said: Water cannon, rubber bullets and Tear gas are most effective 😁😁 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painter Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, boydeste said: So the symptoms are the same, just less severe? I do wonder sometimes, thankyou for proving the guy in the video is talking nonsense! And thankfully that suggests the vaccines are doing a great job. Pat on the back for the Government methinks. A guardian article I've just read based around that Zoe report said something like "subtle changes to the order of the symptoms". Can't find it to quote it now! So subtle I had to read the list several times! Edited September 5, 2021 by Painter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starshine Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Nightcrawler said: Water cannon, rubber bullets and Tear gas are most effective 😁😁 Bag them and jab them 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boydeste Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 (edited) On 9/5/2021 at 2:18 PM, Painter said: A guardian article I've just read based around that Zoe report said something like "subtle changes to the order of the symptoms". Can't find it to quote it now! Of course there is going to be more people having less severe symptons if you are vaccinated, that is the prupose of having the jab. LOL BUT the covid symptons remain the same. In a second i will add my sworn statement that France requires for entry before and after you are double jabbed. Both set of symptons are the same for vaccinated or not. Those are the symptoms France are using, any look familiar perhaps? Edited September 6, 2021 by boydeste 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazle Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 This is what the NHS has on its website: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butch Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 @Krapow mentioned a very valid point earlier, concerning mask wearing. I don't wear a mask outdoors or at work, but I do wear one to the supermarket because in my area there are a fair number of elderly couples. Now, the way I look at it is that I'll always help a pensioner with their shopping if they are struggling, or grab an item from the top shelf if they can't reach. In the same way that if wearing a mask protects them from anything I might have, or even if it "allegedly" doesn't, if it reassures them a bit then I'll continue to wear a mask. It's not really a protest anymore not to wear one, it is choice and as @Krapow said, giving people that choice and responsibility is a fair way of approaching it. Perhaps though it is slightly presumptuous to assume that the Winter will see more cases and a lockdown. The Govt are more concerned with mortality rates than infection numbers. Also, we've not heard the "R" number quoted for a while. There will possibly be a booster jab rollout, perhaps for the vulnerable rather than the whole population. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boydeste Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, Bazle said: This is what the NHS has on its website: With repect, there are no new symptoms, just less severe ones. I have been invited out to a carvery with some friends, not been to one for at least a couple of years, so I am quite excited to go. Plus we are walking so a few beers are in order. A mask will be in my pocket if needed at any point inside the pub, I am quite happy to wear one when asked to do so for the good of myself and others around. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazle Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 22 minutes ago, boydeste said: With repect, there are no new symptoms, just less severe ones. What ZOE complain of is that the NHS is not showing the symptoms properly. They believe the main symptoms (in order) are: 1. Headache 2. Runny nose 3. Sneezing 4. Sore throat 5. Loss of smell The NHS is not making that clear, with the result that many people are probably not identifying cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrmango Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 On 7/27/2021 at 1:18 PM, lazarus said: Public health officials and state and city leaders in Hawaii, Los Angeles, Chicago and elsewhere are urging their residents not to travel to Las Vegas right now amid a growing surge in the Delta variant and little or no mask mandates at Vegas casinos and restaurants. I have a house in Vegas, and that's a false statement. EVERYBODY is masked up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Mrmango said: I have a house in Vegas, and that's a false statement. EVERYBODY is masked up! Not false at the time the comment was originally posted - 7/27/2021. Since then Covid Delta has taken off & new control measures enacted. Folks are now wearing masks because Nevada implemented a mask mandate right at the end of July. Before that -- when Covid numbers were down -- mask wearing was relatively optional and relaxed. Good thing that masks are required in Vegas. People come from all over the world and return home possibly not knowing if they've contracted Covid. What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas...except for Covid it seems. . . . Update: There’s A New Mask Mandate In Las Vegas - 23 July 2021 https://www.forbes.com/sites/willmcgough/2021/07/23/update-theres-a-new-mask-mandate-in-las-vegas/?sh=260c91cc3b66 Nevada's New Mask Mandate Is Backed By Unions, Resort Industry - 5 August 2021 https://www.npr.org/2021/08/05/1025018826/nevadas-new-mask-mandate-is-backed-by-unions-resort-industry 16 of 17 Nevada counties under mask mandate amid 'high' risk for COVID-19 transmission - 31 August 2021 https://www.fox5vegas.com/coronavirus/16-of-17-nevada-counties-under-mask-mandate-amid-high-risk-for-covid-19-transmission/article_e9a6808e-0aae-11ec-9c01-8343b84be222.html . . . Edited September 5, 2021 by lazarus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nightcrawler Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 6 hours ago, fforest said: ACTUAL on September 4th 2021 10 new cases 0 Deaths Population 33,679 No new lockdowns in place https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-maps/countries-and-territories/gibraltar/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightcrawler Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/covid-hospitalisations-unvaccinated-delta-b1914238.html Nearly three-quarters of Covid hospital patients under 50 are unvaccinated Meanwhile in the USA https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthart/2021/09/05/by-the-numbers-whos-refusing-covid-vaccinations-and-why/?utm_medium=browser_notifications&utm_source=pushly&utm_campaign=1345122&sh=7502bbc452ea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fygjam Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 8 hours ago, fforest said: Jeez, you're an idiot! Gibraltar - 1st July, 4351 cases. Gibraltar - 5th September, 5388 cases. See if you can calculate that as a percentage increase. Hint it's NOT a 2500 PERCENT SPIKE. Fuk, they don't know science and the don't know maths. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightcrawler Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 47 minutes ago, fygjam said: Jeez, you're an idiot! Gibraltar - 1st July, 4351 cases. Gibraltar - 5th September, 5388 cases. See if you can calculate that as a percentage increase. Hint it's NOT a 2500 PERCENT SPIKE. Fuk, they don't know science and the don't know maths. If it's on Twitter then it must be true 😁😁😁😁 A large percentage of Antivaxxers are poorly educated. Its a shame, really. They a fed dog shit on Social Media and gladly eat it as if their were a famine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Nightcrawler said: Meanwhile in the USA https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthart/2021/09/05/by-the-numbers-whos-refusing-covid-vaccinations-and-why/?utm_medium=browser_notifications&utm_source=pushly&utm_campaign=1345122&sh=7502bbc452ea As the saying goes: "You can't fix stupid." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krapow Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 10 hours ago, fforest said: So, the numbers this windowlicker conspiracy site 'BigleaguePolitics' are using is from 1 to 25 to get the 2500% To say it's disingenuous would be a gross understatement, using percentages when case are as low as 1 or 25. This was also taken over a timeframe when Gibraltar was the only place in Southern Europe allowing UK tourist, hence the massive 20 odd new cases Yesterday these was 2 new infections, but surprisingly enough the windowlicker site hasn't done the graph to reflect that, which would be what, a 1250% drop in cases Again, more garbage from posted on here from a windowlicker conspiracy site, picked up by idiots like 'Francesca', then passed on big bigger idiots ... Forest, any opinions on what they haven't shown the up to date graph, why they're using % when cases are so low, why they're not mentioning that was peak tourist time and Gib was practically the only place in Southern Europe allowing Brits? No of course you don't, you just post garbage from windowlicker conspiracy sites, then when challenged, run away and post more garbage from other conspiracy sites. Still, it's been what, over a week now with no Gay Pride or Trans Rights marches posted on here as anti Vaxx marches, so i suppose that's progress of sorts ... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Krapow Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 3 hours ago, fygjam said: Jeez, you're an idiot! I might be mistaken, but i think i've read that once or twice on here before. Forest next logging onto the forum ... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fygjam Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Krapow said: I might be mistaken, but i think i've read that once or twice on here before. Forest next logging onto the forum ... I did have to restrain myself. Waiting for roonob to chime in claiming that idiocy is a valid alternate viewpoint. roonob finds out he's mentioned in a post. Edited September 6, 2021 by fygjam 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CampariO Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 So, 99% of Gibraltar is vaxxed. Children in Gibraltar are not vaxxed. Conclusion 1: maximum 1% of the population are children. Conclusion 2: a) those guys in Gibraltar can't get it up anymore b) the tooth vaccine fairy got a new part-time job c) children in Gibraltar become adults on their first birthday d) some people are mentally challenged to question some simple numbers e) ....what do YOU think? (I know, it is the tooth fairy, the bitch!!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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